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My truck is now over twice as tall as it was before, counting my antennas.

10 meter whip is now attached to my luggage rack, awaiting my General class license.

I now clip low hanging trees. I had to attach it to the passenger side so I can still go through drive thrus.

This song has a chorus of "I do it for the drugs, I do it just to feel alive"
It needs to be "I do it for the fries, I do it just to feel zesty"

w00t.

Much thanks to Myself248 for his help making the luggage rack mount. It's incredibly leet, and cost me less than $18.

Oh, I'm alive too.

Had some creep from Quixtar/"Team of Destiny"/Amway come try to do their creepy talk to me when I was chillin in the Mall's food court and was online. These people were the fucking stupidest shysters I've ever seen. At one point, one bragged about how he "work at DaimlerChrysler and oh, if you want, you can email me at (removed)@daimlerchrysler.com." "Oh, your work dosn't care you use your work email for personal business?" "Yea, but I don't care. The secretary told me the other day that 'They're reading your email, you should stop' and I just told her 'Oh, I don't care, that's okay, I don't plan on working here for too much longer'"

I've decided that I'm gonna rustle through my network contacts at Daimler Chrysler and try and make his dream of not being employed at Daimler Chrysler a reality. He also gave me a vonage number to call him at. I'm gonna call my contacts at Vonage and make sure they're billing him for a business account, since he's clearly operating a business on it.

He also mentioned how he was getting divorced and how he plans on keeping the kids. Fuck that. No judge in the world is gonna say "Yea, stay with this creepy ass dad who's pitching pyramid schemes to random passersby". If I can figure out where the divorce is filed, I should file a friend of the court brief to make sure the Judge is aware of what he does on his spare time. Apparently it doesn't involve spending his Friday Nights with the kids.

My two favorite parts of it. He started the conversation by talking about my wireless internet connection. So later on, he tells me the founders name, and I push it into google while he's blathering on and get This. I say 'Wait, is this 'Team of Destiny?' He stops in his tracks. "umm, yea. How did you know that?" "Uhh, first hit on google on your founders name turns up a page explaining how the operation is a pyramid scheme and explictly explains how it violates Michigan state law." I spin the laptop around so he can see the header "Why Team of Destiny is an Illegal Pyramid" in 18 point text.
He freezes, and stares like a deer in the headlights.
"Who did this?!?! It's not illegal!?! Anyone can just go on the internet and write stuff like this?"
I went back to the google search results, and showed other links of people bitching how they got scammed by it. "If it's so false, where's the good information? The positive 'Team of Destiny' isn't illegal, and I'm making good money site?"
"Well, you can just go to (link to the pyramid scheme founder's homepage removed)"
"But that's -his- page! What is he gonna do, say he sucks? Of course it's gonna say good things! Anyone can just go on the internet and say they're good!"

I then asked if I could record the rest of the conversation. "Sure, I have nothing to hide!" I go to start doing so, and the laptop drops dead.
Fuck, and I wanted to get him on recording saying that I don't have to sell anything, I just have to sign others up to make money like he did earlier.

So I just got angry with him, asked him for his contact infomation, and then said "I'm bored. Please go away now."
"uhh"
"You speak english, right? I'm bored, please go away"
"Well, let me ..."
"No. Please go away. Don't make me call mall security and tell them you're soliciting on the grounds."
So he leaves..

How this incident could have gone better:
* Batteries didn't die. If I could have got a recording of him telling me that I can maintain a downline and not actually sell any product, that would have clinched my upcoming complaint to the Attorney General's office.
* Someone had gotten a picture. amishone was considering doing it, but thought better of it. Fuck that, I don't care if I'm rude to these scammers, so I should have just whipped out my camera and took a photo point blank. Had -I- thought of it, there'd be photos of the jackass with his DaimlerChrystler access card still affixed to his belt posted here, and sent to my DCX contact. Smile that shit eating grin as long as you can, I say. It won't last.


Oh, another part. He was trying to tell me how stores would go away and how people should buy groceries online, and I could get in on it. I said "Who the fuck buys groceries online? I mean, I buy shit on ebay, but groceries?" "Well, it comes with a 90 day return policy!" "Oh, kickass. That means I can unplug the fridge and save the energy, and just keep my meat and milk on the counter. If I don't drink it before it goes bad, I'll just return it!"
"no no no, you can't do that!!"
"Why not? I'm sure there's a legal loophole somehow. How would you prevent yourself from going bankrupt?"
"Uhh, that's not important"
"What about credit card fraud, where someone frauds a few grand in groceries?"
"Uhh, that's not important, you see"
"Sure as fuck is, if it's my ass on the other end of the transaction.... But how about this one: I don't have my dinner for tonight purchased, and it's already 9pm. Should I just order it on your site and request UPS 1 hour delivery, special rush, so I don't pass out from hypoglycemia while it's delivered? I mean, if retail stores are going away..."
"Uhh, umm"

I love making scammers squirm.
They really fucked with the wrong person this time.

Comments

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thegreatdoogie
Oct. 18th, 2003 09:34 pm (UTC)
alright, it could be that I'm incredibly ramped up on ephredine right now, but is this saying that Amway is an illegal pyramid scheme? I thought Amway was supposed to be one of the few legit home business type things going on?
noweb4u
Oct. 18th, 2003 09:39 pm (UTC)
ummm. yes. Most of their money is made on training and promotional materials rather than selling their products. They actively punish those who try to compete for business by offering better prices or whatever to other people's downlines. They get angry when you talk about the business to other people's downlines. It's fucked.

http://www.amquix.info/shs_v_alticor-complaint.html

Read that carefully, it's an eye opener.
thegreatdoogie
Oct. 18th, 2003 09:52 pm (UTC)
wow how about that...come to think of it, I do remember some friends and family doing the Amway thing back in the day, and I don't remember anyone ever saying how great the Amway stuff was...they just bought it to because they knew so-and-so, or were family and such
mynameisnotreal
May. 10th, 2004 12:22 am (UTC)
*cough*
"Had some creep from Quixtar/"Team of Destiny"/Amway come try to do their creepy talk to me when I was chillin in the Mall's food court and was online."
Well, I was going to ask about this Team of Destiny stuff on my journal... A guy I work with is trying to get me involved. What do you know about it? It looks like a pyramid, smlls like a pyramid. Is it?
noweb4u
Jul. 13th, 2004 06:08 pm (UTC)
yes
mynameisnotreal
Jul. 13th, 2004 11:36 pm (UTC)
Thought so. It seems I've been busy every night they are having one of their meetings. Shame...
noweb4u
Jul. 14th, 2004 12:06 am (UTC)
everyone I've ever heard of who ever came close to it got screwed bigtime. They make tons on their training materials, and it's my understanding your biggest customer will be yourself, unless you can sucker others into buying crap on schedule rather than just going a mile to the store and buying it with the perishables they have to buy anyway.

As I pointed out to this guy, if you can't get the stuff in an hour, what's the point? I happen to like getting food on the spur of the moment, I like going through the store and having my choice of the product on the shelf, there's very little I don't like about shopping in a store, especially given how visual I am.

And we as humans in general are like that.
mynameisnotreal
Jul. 14th, 2004 12:08 am (UTC)
Well, they might be able to sell well to anyone who is reclusive, say people who spend hours and hours in darkened rooms with the white glare of computer monitors keeping them company. Uh... *looks around* Okay, I would be perfect for them...
noweb4u
Jul. 14th, 2004 12:13 am (UTC)
If that were the case, they'd have done a much better job of convincing me...
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